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		<title>By: Kieran</title>
		<link>http://jamezpolley.com/2009/02/everything-old-is-new-again-redux/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOA defines a paradigm for building what is, in my opinion, highly agile, reusable and flexible software. Simplified:



1. Expose all logical units of functionality as a service without any coordination. E.g., expose &quot;Take Loan Application&quot;, &quot;Validate Tax File Number&quot;, &quot;Validate Address&quot;, &quot;Validate Email address&quot;, &quot;Income meets our lending criteria&quot;, &quot;Approve Loan&quot;, &quot;Deny Loan&quot; as individual services.



2. Orchestrate those processes with a language called BPEL. E.g. A BPEL process, &quot;Process loan application&quot;, calls the &quot;Take Loan Application&quot;, and then calls &quot;Validate Tax Number&quot; (etc), and then calls &quot;Income meets our lending criteria&quot;, then depending upon the result the BPEL process calls either approve or deny loan. This &quot;Process Loan application&quot; is exposed as a web service for consumption in a larger process.



This then allows for software to be built in a manner whereby the individual components can be consumed individually and also to be orchestrated in a larger process, which then can be reused and easily adapted.



kill `ps auxww &#124; grep firefox-bloat &#124; egrep -v grep &#124; awk &#039;{print $2}&#039;`  (and yes, I know of pgrep).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOA defines a paradigm for building what is, in my opinion, highly agile, reusable and flexible software. Simplified:</p>
<p>1. Expose all logical units of functionality as a service without any coordination. E.g., expose “Take Loan Application”, “Validate Tax File Number”, “Validate Address”, “Validate Email address”, “Income meets our lending criteria”, “Approve Loan”, “Deny Loan” as individual services.</p>
<p>2. Orchestrate those processes with a language called BPEL. E.g. A BPEL process, “Process loan application”, calls the “Take Loan Application”, and then calls “Validate Tax Number” (etc), and then calls “Income meets our lending criteria”, then depending upon the result the BPEL process calls either approve or deny loan. This “Process Loan application” is exposed as a web service for consumption in a larger process.</p>
<p>This then allows for software to be built in a manner whereby the individual components can be consumed individually and also to be orchestrated in a larger process, which then can be reused and easily adapted.</p>
<p>kill ‘ps auxww | grep firefox-bloat | egrep –v grep | awk ‘{print $2}’‘  (and yes, I know of pgrep).</p>
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		<title>By: James Polley</title>
		<link>http://jamezpolley.com/2009/02/everything-old-is-new-again-redux/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>James Polley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOA, I.. well, I know what it stands for, no-one (not even the shills trying to get me to cough up money for their idea of an SOA) knows what it really means.



Atomic-SOA? No idea.



BPEL? No idea.



Could we get a translation into plain english?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOA, I.. well, I know what it stands for, no-one (not even the shills trying to get me to cough up money for their idea of an SOA) knows what it really means.</p>
<p>Atomic-SOA? No idea.</p>
<p>BPEL? No idea.</p>
<p>Could we get a translation into plain english?</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran</title>
		<link>http://jamezpolley.com/2009/02/everything-old-is-new-again-redux/#comment-548</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atomic-SOA...BPEL to orchestrate them...and wham. magic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atomic-SOA…BPEL to orchestrate them…and wham. magic.</p>
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		<title>By: James Polley</title>
		<link>http://jamezpolley.com/2009/02/everything-old-is-new-again-redux/#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>James Polley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, yes I should. Done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes I should. Done!</p>
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		<title>By: holmwood.id.au/~lindsay/</title>
		<link>http://jamezpolley.com/2009/02/everything-old-is-new-again-redux/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>holmwood.id.au/~lindsay/</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should categorise this as &quot;slugworthy&quot;. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should categorise this as “slugworthy”. <img src='http://jamezpolley.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James Polley</title>
		<link>http://jamezpolley.com/2009/02/everything-old-is-new-again-redux/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>James Polley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But even as everything is being pushed into the cloud, Gear (and HTML5) are championing the idea that it can be better to push the data and processing back out to the nodes - Gmail &quot;Flaky Connection Mode&quot; and Myspace both push data to the web browser, so that searches can happen there and be nice and fast..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But even as everything is being pushed into the cloud, Gear (and HTML5) are championing the idea that it can be better to push the data and processing back out to the nodes — Gmail “Flaky Connection Mode” and Myspace both push data to the web browser, so that searches can happen there and be nice and fast..</p>
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		<title>By: Sherif</title>
		<link>http://jamezpolley.com/2009/02/everything-old-is-new-again-redux/#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man we just go around in circles... I&#039;m reading through the Old Testament (as you do), and Israel went around in Circles with God, over and over and over again..( I know I&#039;m stretching the analogy - but same thing!)

Its the with technology, as you have described above...look at the fact that we are even going back to the &#039;thin&#039; client / dumb terminal - everything is being pushed into the cloud... here we come around the circle again..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man we just go around in circles… I’m reading through the Old Testament (as you do), and Israel went around in Circles with God, over and over and over again..( I know I’m stretching the analogy — but same thing!)</p>
<p>Its the with technology, as you have described above…look at the fact that we are even going back to the ‘thin’ client / dumb terminal — everything is being pushed into the cloud… here we come around the circle again..</p>
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